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		<title>By: wolfe desert dog</title>
		<link>http://johnlaw.laughingsquid.com/2007/01/12/onward/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>wolfe desert dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u losers need to get a life and stop drinking the kool-aide
if it really is a movement YOU do not need a corporation OR  a festival to be artists, get yourselves empowered!
you will all do what you need to do with or without it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u losers need to get a life and stop drinking the kool-aide<br />
if it really is a movement YOU do not need a corporation OR  a festival to be artists, get yourselves empowered!<br />
you will all do what you need to do with or without it!</p>
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		<title>By: THAT Andi</title>
		<link>http://johnlaw.laughingsquid.com/2007/01/12/onward/#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>THAT Andi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha,

Like freak stepchildren us Regionals are consistently left out of many Burning Man discussions. A LOT has happened since 1996, one of the biggest changes has been the organic growth of the Regional Network (RN). Why organic, because each Regional sprouted ON IT&#039;S OWN, they were not directed to do so by BRC LLC. Much of the growth and spread of the RN has gone beneath the radar of SF BM veterans for far too long.

Each Regional Contact (RC) stepped up to the role and began to organize their comunity with the understanding that NO ONE is profiting from Burning Man, and no one ever would. RCs put in hundreds if not thousands of hours a year in volunteer passionate effort, all for nothing (well we do get a free ticket to BM, wheee). NO RC is in it for the money (if they were they would be pretty dumb) it is all about building community and passion.

Both outcomes of John Law&#039;s suit would be detrimental not only to everything BRC LLC has built since 1996 but also to the 80-odd Regional groups around the world. Destroying the &quot;brand&quot; (putting the trademark into public use) would have a much larger nrgative impact in the RN. Forget about &quot;BM Girls Gone Wild&quot; or Nike &quot;BM sneakers&quot;, the real threat are the already existing event promoters that would instantly capitalize on the Regionals&#039; hard work and good name and reputation. Sure you would open up a whole bunch of people to use &quot;BM&quot; as they see fit but you would also be clubbing the RN in the knees and instantly devaluing 9 years of passion and dedication by the 100-odd RCs.

The RN and BRC LLC can and will recover through rebranding or whatever but the enormous Social Capital that has been built up in the past 20 or so years will quickly begin to drain away. A public lawsuit battle is not in anyone&#039;s interest and just goes to show the world that BM really is not that special, it is just another capitalist endeavor wrapped in nice words.

I am writing this today so that you Mr. Law (and Larry and M2) can reconsider what you are doing in light of what is REALLY happening out here. And I have a proposal, this for-profit thing has always a bad smell to me. How about putting the &quot;Burning Man&quot; name out of for-profit use for good, not by destroying the &quot;brand&quot; but by converting Paper Man LLC to a nonprofit, or by transferring all assets to the Black Rock Arts Foundation? That would be the ONLY way to insure that no one ever makes money off of the BM name.

If you need a hand with the nonprofit thing you can always ask the handful of Regionals that are 501c3&#039;s and 501c7&#039;s. Ka Pilina would be more than willing to help out in this endeavor.

Andi Cuniberti
Founder, President, and Executive Director
The Ka Pilina Interactive Arts Society, Inc. (501c3)
Burning Man Hawaii co-Regional Contact</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha,</p>
<p>Like freak stepchildren us Regionals are consistently left out of many Burning Man discussions. A LOT has happened since 1996, one of the biggest changes has been the organic growth of the Regional Network (RN). Why organic, because each Regional sprouted ON IT&#8217;S OWN, they were not directed to do so by BRC LLC. Much of the growth and spread of the RN has gone beneath the radar of SF BM veterans for far too long.</p>
<p>Each Regional Contact (RC) stepped up to the role and began to organize their comunity with the understanding that NO ONE is profiting from Burning Man, and no one ever would. RCs put in hundreds if not thousands of hours a year in volunteer passionate effort, all for nothing (well we do get a free ticket to BM, wheee). NO RC is in it for the money (if they were they would be pretty dumb) it is all about building community and passion.</p>
<p>Both outcomes of John Law&#8217;s suit would be detrimental not only to everything BRC LLC has built since 1996 but also to the 80-odd Regional groups around the world. Destroying the &#8220;brand&#8221; (putting the trademark into public use) would have a much larger nrgative impact in the RN. Forget about &#8220;BM Girls Gone Wild&#8221; or Nike &#8220;BM sneakers&#8221;, the real threat are the already existing event promoters that would instantly capitalize on the Regionals&#8217; hard work and good name and reputation. Sure you would open up a whole bunch of people to use &#8220;BM&#8221; as they see fit but you would also be clubbing the RN in the knees and instantly devaluing 9 years of passion and dedication by the 100-odd RCs.</p>
<p>The RN and BRC LLC can and will recover through rebranding or whatever but the enormous Social Capital that has been built up in the past 20 or so years will quickly begin to drain away. A public lawsuit battle is not in anyone&#8217;s interest and just goes to show the world that BM really is not that special, it is just another capitalist endeavor wrapped in nice words.</p>
<p>I am writing this today so that you Mr. Law (and Larry and M2) can reconsider what you are doing in light of what is REALLY happening out here. And I have a proposal, this for-profit thing has always a bad smell to me. How about putting the &#8220;Burning Man&#8221; name out of for-profit use for good, not by destroying the &#8220;brand&#8221; but by converting Paper Man LLC to a nonprofit, or by transferring all assets to the Black Rock Arts Foundation? That would be the ONLY way to insure that no one ever makes money off of the BM name.</p>
<p>If you need a hand with the nonprofit thing you can always ask the handful of Regionals that are 501c3&#8217;s and 501c7&#8217;s. Ka Pilina would be more than willing to help out in this endeavor.</p>
<p>Andi Cuniberti<br />
Founder, President, and Executive Director<br />
The Ka Pilina Interactive Arts Society, Inc. (501c3)<br />
Burning Man Hawaii co-Regional Contact</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://johnlaw.laughingsquid.com/2007/01/12/onward/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,  I wanted to take my time thinking about this before choosing sides. I&#039;m joining you on the dark sides.
Burners afraid of seeing Burning Man taken over by corporations should ask themselves what&#039;s the difference between that and the current situation. As you point out BRCLLC IS as corporation . Why should it be different that Coca Cola or 3 guys own the name? It&#039;s always &quot;someone else&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,  I wanted to take my time thinking about this before choosing sides. I&#8217;m joining you on the dark sides.<br />
Burners afraid of seeing Burning Man taken over by corporations should ask themselves what&#8217;s the difference between that and the current situation. As you point out BRCLLC IS as corporation . Why should it be different that Coca Cola or 3 guys own the name? It&#8217;s always &#8220;someone else&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hell</title>
		<link>http://johnlaw.laughingsquid.com/2007/01/12/onward/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. I have a pot-o-sand hat. I like it. I really do. No one ever stopped me when I named the radio station Radio Free Burning Man. Hmm. How can I use this to my advantage? Must think clearly. No. 

What does Jerry think? Knowing Jerry, he&#039;s staying very far away from this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. I have a pot-o-sand hat. I like it. I really do. No one ever stopped me when I named the radio station Radio Free Burning Man. Hmm. How can I use this to my advantage? Must think clearly. No. </p>
<p>What does Jerry think? Knowing Jerry, he&#8217;s staying very far away from this.</p>
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		<title>By: Laughing Squid &#187; John Law Sues His Former Burning Man Partners</title>
		<link>http://johnlaw.laughingsquid.com/2007/01/12/onward/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Laughing Squid &#187; John Law Sues His Former Burning Man Partners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tym simpson</title>
		<link>http://johnlaw.laughingsquid.com/2007/01/12/onward/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>tym simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are an evil bad bad man and are going to burn in hell. How dare you smash the magic mirror  of delusions that allow yuppies to foster the delusion that they  can transcend their meaninglessness for a  fee  How dare you point out the emperor&#039;s nudity?  What utter gall to  request blissninny hypocrits to rationaly evaluate and actualy think independently.
What are you high?
What are you some kind of commie anarchist buzzkill?
Seems like you got them more nervous than a long tailed cat on a porch full of rocking chairs.
Shame shame!...
...heh.
 

 I have a phrase for larry and the would be uber groovy corporate drop out blinder wearing board members of Bm- I say they fuck their own god. I do not think they are evil but they certainly are steeped in mendacity.
 Their ignorence  and blinder wearing can be astounding.   It sure as hell ain&#039;t just a river in Africa now is it?
Have you thought of suggesting putting the name into a creative commons Liscensing agreement or some such?
So when are you coming to visit Austin? Perhaps make the art car parade in hot smelly Huston?  
Marian is good at what she does but the gulibility of her audience doesn&#039;t hurt none either.  Her veracity is dubious at best but like any truely good pr person,  hack propagandist or outright  lier she truely believes her own somewhat mendacious paridigns- its sad.
 
Hi to jr and missus, hope to see your prodigy in person someday.Perhaps this summer, maybe late august or so.
namaste as i wanna be,
Tym</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are an evil bad bad man and are going to burn in hell. How dare you smash the magic mirror  of delusions that allow yuppies to foster the delusion that they  can transcend their meaninglessness for a  fee  How dare you point out the emperor&#8217;s nudity?  What utter gall to  request blissninny hypocrits to rationaly evaluate and actualy think independently.<br />
What are you high?<br />
What are you some kind of commie anarchist buzzkill?<br />
Seems like you got them more nervous than a long tailed cat on a porch full of rocking chairs.<br />
Shame shame!&#8230;<br />
&#8230;heh.</p>
<p> I have a phrase for larry and the would be uber groovy corporate drop out blinder wearing board members of Bm- I say they fuck their own god. I do not think they are evil but they certainly are steeped in mendacity.<br />
 Their ignorence  and blinder wearing can be astounding.   It sure as hell ain&#8217;t just a river in Africa now is it?<br />
Have you thought of suggesting putting the name into a creative commons Liscensing agreement or some such?<br />
So when are you coming to visit Austin? Perhaps make the art car parade in hot smelly Huston?<br />
Marian is good at what she does but the gulibility of her audience doesn&#8217;t hurt none either.  Her veracity is dubious at best but like any truely good pr person,  hack propagandist or outright  lier she truely believes her own somewhat mendacious paridigns- its sad.</p>
<p>Hi to jr and missus, hope to see your prodigy in person someday.Perhaps this summer, maybe late august or so.<br />
namaste as i wanna be,<br />
Tym</p>
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		<title>By: Victor (aka St. Vincent)</title>
		<link>http://johnlaw.laughingsquid.com/2007/01/12/onward/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor (aka St. Vincent)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

Victor from Portland Cacophony here.  

You have my unqualified support.

v</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>Victor from Portland Cacophony here.  </p>
<p>You have my unqualified support.</p>
<p>v</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://johnlaw.laughingsquid.com/2007/01/12/onward/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Thank you for keeping everyone on their toes! This has been a long time coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Thank you for keeping everyone on their toes! This has been a long time coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Ketman</title>
		<link>http://johnlaw.laughingsquid.com/2007/01/12/onward/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Ketman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, here&#039;s an idea: Just call it Flaming Person. (I own the name, but I will sell it to either BMLLC or John Law, whoever jumps on it first, for $285.)  If you buy this name, it has to be a Creative Commons license.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, here&#8217;s an idea: Just call it Flaming Person. (I own the name, but I will sell it to either BMLLC or John Law, whoever jumps on it first, for $285.)  If you buy this name, it has to be a Creative Commons license.</p>
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		<title>By: nina</title>
		<link>http://johnlaw.laughingsquid.com/2007/01/12/onward/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 09:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BurningMan branded port-o-potties... I kinda like that. It seems an awful lot more schrewd and creative than yet another person running around with blinky-lights and funny-fur. Is it only &quot;creative&quot; to make satire of the self, and not of an entire organization- or, of the concept of organization?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BurningMan branded port-o-potties&#8230; I kinda like that. It seems an awful lot more schrewd and creative than yet another person running around with blinky-lights and funny-fur. Is it only &#8220;creative&#8221; to make satire of the self, and not of an entire organization- or, of the concept of organization?</p>
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